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herringtown replied on October 14, 2009 20:35 to the question "Bulk Uploading of Products for Sale?" in Yola:
Papa, I think this would be an excellent addition to the product roadmap for Yola as the product continues to increase in complexity -- and rapidly converge on more eCommerce-oriented services like Shopify and GoodBarry, which I've used in the past.
Both of the services I mentioned permit bulk upload (csv/xls) of product catalogs, but they lack the painless & easy-to-use sitebuilding UI that is Yola's bread and butter.
My hope is that Yola will start zeroing in on some of these advanced content features and try to capture a 'low-hanging' sweet spot of users -- like myself, and probably you -- who fall right inbetween the Yola/Weebly feature set and GoodBarry/Shopify feature set from use-case stand point.
Interested to see how this plays out as I have high hopes of Yola making my life a lot easier :)-
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herringtown replied on October 14, 2009 20:24 to the idea "Feature Request!!!" in Yola:
I can't tell you how many times the Gmail auto-save feature has saved my butt after writing a long email and subsequently having my wireless flake out when trying to send :).
In an online app like Yola, having auto-save is probably much more useful than the already-useful Gmail use case I related.....definitely a fan of this proposed feature! -
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herringtown replied on October 14, 2009 15:17 to the question "Another Yola Pro Question : where are the uploaded CSS files included relative to the core Yola CSS files?" in Yola:
Christo -- thanks! Thats the clarification I was looking for.
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herringtown marked one of Christo's replies in Yola as useful. Christo replied to the question "Another Yola Pro Question : where are the uploaded CSS files included relative to the core Yola CSS files?".
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herringtown asked a question in Yola on October 14, 2009 00:09:
Another Yola Pro Question : where are the uploaded CSS files included relative to the core Yola CSS files?Hi there, Yola team. Thanks a ton for your prompt answers thus far to all of my posts -- I am just getting my feet wet with Yola (eval'ing it for use with clients) and appreciate your time.
This may have already been addressed, but I have not seen it explicitly discussed anywhere. I have a question regarding the new capability in Yola Pro (I haven't upgraded to it yet) to upload CSS files; specifically, WHERE in the head are user-supplied CSS files included -- before after the core Yola CSS (i.e., the css that is generated from 'css-test.php?renderPalletteCss=<template_id>)?
I am assuming that user-uploaded CSS files are included *after* the core CSS for the selected template in order to permit us to override certain styles? This, after all, is what CSS was designed for :) (Sidenote: I realize from related posts that you are reluctant to draw attention to the fact that styles can be overridden; while I agree that most of your users shouldn't be messing with CSS, at some point, you'll just have to trust that professional web developers like myself can tinker with things a bit without screwing anything up :-) ).
If not, I suppose I can just add a bunch of !important' declarations (or include a js file that sets/overrides the styles of certain desired page elements.)
For testing purposes -- using the html widget -- I've overridden the menu item image on the index page of my sandbox site just to play around :
--> replaced standard nav menu icon with an external CSS sprite on my server (and no, there is no good reason that I used a close-X icon ;)
--> added drop shadow to content area
--> rounded top corners of banner area
http://gastro.yolasite.com/css-test.php
Overall, I like the provided templates -- I just intend to add/remove/modify a few things here and there to accommodate a few specific design requirements :). Thanks!</template_id> -
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herringtown marked one of Emmy's replies in Yola as useful. Emmy replied to the question "Uploading .PHP and .HTML files - vital files for fantastic features!".
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A comment on the question "in Yola Pro, does the HTML widget allow SSI includes of uploaded .shtml files?" in Yola:
Hi Dan .... yeah, the SSI thing was a shot in the dark, but I was seeing if I could
come up with something less kludgy (albeit only slightly) than the IFRAME hack for implementing includes. :)
Basically, my client has more than a few shared content elements between pages that will change frequently (sidebar content, pull-quotes, testimonials, highlights, etc.). Creating duplicate versions of pages with Save-As is a non-starter solution.
Right now, I am am accomplishing this through an IFRAME hack that references a non-menu content node (the iframe does in fact load the entire template, but a little bit of absolute positioning and white BG makes it look like just the desired content has loaded -- thanks to @Kawina for suggesting). This is rather inefficient, but it works :). The main downside to this approach (other than using IFRAME's, which I hate doing), is the possible necessity of updating any hardcoded width/height attributes due to new content.
If you have any better suggestions (or just feel like sharing something cool you've done with Yola to a noob :) ), please let me know! Thanks! :) – herringtown, on October 13, 2009 20:32 -
herringtown replied on October 13, 2009 20:13 to the question "in Yola Pro, does the HTML widget allow SSI includes of uploaded .shtml files?" in Yola:
Hi Kershnee ! Yes, I am definitely well aware that SSI's are an old, deprecated & problematic mechanism for generating dynamic content on the web, but seeing as Yola has not featurized the concept of includes, we users are forced to search for hacks (such as the aforementioned IFRAME hack) to accomplish this. ;)
I will continue using the IFRAME hack , which works fine -- just thought I'd ask though, in case you for some odd reason still let Apache run SSI directives ;). Thanks... -
herringtown asked a question in Yola on October 13, 2009 13:10:
in Yola Pro, does the HTML widget allow SSI includes of uploaded .shtml files?Ahoy, team Yola. I just read the post about the Yola Pro offering that was just released. In the post, the author mentions that in Yola Pro, you can now upload HTML, js & css files -- something that is restricted in the free version.
This leads me in another direction to finding an answer to an earlier question I posted about the ability to have "common includes" (not a page saved as a duplicate) for recurring/common content (http://forum.yola.com/yola/topics/doe...).
Assuming you can now upload html files to Yola, I was wondering if the uploaded files could be used in an SSI context (as in server-side includes -- not SSL ;) )? Specifically, I am talking about including something similar to the following snippet in an HTML widget :
<!--#include virtual="/wherever_yola_stores_user-uploaded_files/some_shared_content.shtml" -->
If so, that would seem to be an improvement from the very serviceable IFRAME hack suggested by @Kawina on the topic page :
http://forum.yola.com/yola/topics/is_...
If this is possible, I would be one happy camper :). -
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herringtown replied on October 13, 2009 12:40 to the question "Does yola support the content of "recurring content" / includes?" in Yola:
Hi there Emmy! I see that the "Copy/Duplicate" response seems to be the party line from Yola, but unfortunately, from a maintenance standpoint, that is untenable. I see that most of the other web developers with similar questions agree :). A much better (but still imperfect) solution (which I just tried and verified) was put forth by the user @Kawina under the topic :
http://forum.yola.com/yola/topics/is_...
About half way down the page, Kawina suggest an IFRAME approach to "common includes" which was given a star by the Yola rep @Monique. Kudos to Kawina for putting this forth. It works, but its still somewhat of a hack because of the hardcoded IFRAME dimensions that would possibly have to be updated on each page should the underlying include content change.
Thanks for the tip on navigation menus! I am just starting to explore Yola and am still a noob here, so all these resources help :) -
herringtown marked one of Kawina's replies in Yola as useful. Kawina replied to the question "Is it possible to include common HTML code on multiple pages?".
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herringtown replied on October 13, 2009 11:58 to the idea "Downloadable Yola "Web Builder"" in Yola:
This is an interesting idea -- probably useful for a future release a version or two away :). GoodBarry (a peripheral competitor to Yola that plays more in the eCommerce/CRM space for small business websites) has a downloadable Dreamweaver extension called Triangle, which allows you to build your site locally.
I've played with it, but the problem of having something like this with Yola is that its too complex for most of the intended audience -- though it would be a boon for "advanced users", surely :) -
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herringtown asked a question in Weebly on October 12, 2009 23:16:
What on earth does "Elements-->More-->Import" do?What on earth does "Elements-->More-->Import" do? I was hoping it would let me create some simple custom widgets (i.e., recurring HTML content like a sidebar or something)
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