Ability to use entire screen for page space?

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Why can my colleague at http://www.yehudamoon.com/index.php?d...
use his whole window for display, and I can't? http://scratchinpostcomics.com/ (My site is built on Synthasite.)

Also, besides explaining why the styles don't allow this, can you tell me if they ever will?

It would mean a lot to us.

Cheers.

Bengo
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i dunno how to do this but can u check out my website at www.questforanswers.synthasite.com and tell me wat u think
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Hi Bengo

Thanks for the example. This would involve creating new styles to allow for this functionality.

I will pass this request on to our developers (in addition to the request for plain styles with solid colours)
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Bengo

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I'm sure you are advocating for us!

I don't know what the counter-arguments might be (programmer priorities?) but this issue is a deal-breaker for many in the comics/illustration/art and design communities -- and these people are prolific producers of web sites. At much as I have suggested that colleagues consider Synthasite, this issue has been the block at least 60% of the time.

Many art sites are eligible for awards, and the foundation look of the site can divide them into the also-ran group if it looks unprofessional. It also limits design options.

Competing options have serious deficits that are not likely to change. Eliminating this issue at Synthasite represents an opportunity.

I am also unable to recommend Synthasite in my blog and other places until this is addressed, or it will be counter-productive. I am no power blogger, but I have a following, and those people have a following, and so on. I can't promise a surge of users, but I will report my experiences in my area of the web.
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Hi Bengo

You make a convincing case!

I will pass your arguments on and see what the people who do the REAL work at SynthaSite have to say.

You are right - comic artists are a group we would like to accommodate and if this option is important then it is certainly something we want to look into.

I will try to work the phrase "threshold feature for web comic artists" into conversations around the office on a regular basis. And then we shall see what happens.
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I might add, the user demographic for your product may be people with low programming experience, but there will be churn that will slow growth if expressibility of the tool doesn't grow with the user, and there are visual factors that say, "This is a tool, not a custom design" will be seen by some as poison. I realize I am lecturing at a level that is over my head, and I apologize, but I mean well. I want everyone on your end to understand how we see things on this end. To be honest, this factor has put me under pressure to consider other options than Synthasite, but I have held out, expecting that it will be resolved. Just for example, we recently were invited to merge with another comics collective, and I feel I must bring my sites up to the standards of the other members. I remain 100% confident I can do this with Synthasite, given the right tools. Please don't think I am threatening to leave -- I would make every effort to resolve whatever was motivating such sentiments before considering it. Nor am I meaning to pile my wish list on the backs of your staff -- I think I have managed to make clear what I feel is of high importance and what I feel is merely desirable. It's just hard for me to argue my case without coming off like I am making demands. That is not my intent. I only want you to see it how I see it, so that you can factor my view into your decision-making. I'm sure you have priorities I can't imagine, and I would not want to disrupt them.

THANK YOU for listening. :)
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Hi Bengo,

I'm not sure that I understand exactly what you mean by "use the whole screen for display"?

Are you referring to what we term a "liquid layout"? Meaning that primary areas of the page are flexible in width, depending on your browser window.

An example is Amazon, http://www.amazon.com/ - resize your browser and observe the way in which the center column rescales the content to fit the resizing column? (in this instance the left & right columns are fixed width). A less noisy example might be http://www.cesserdigital.net/

I ask this because the example site you give does not have this flexibility.

Our current styles are all of a "fixed" width, centered in the window. Many do however allow for a full-width column of text or image (which you already make use of).

Sorry but I don't fully understand what it is you're asking for. I understand your frustration, but can you possibly give me more information please? Perhaps some more examples might help too.

Thanks!
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I mean a liquid layout.
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Bengo

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I should mention that I particularly want neutral layouts (black, white, grey, green) that are liquid and they should have no decorations. If there is a masthead, like Red Planet has, it should be swappable. Earthtones and textures like burlap and cotton fabric would be appealing. Also appealing would be "load your own" background patterns, because many people custom make them. Example of custom made liquid background, as I understand it: http://dummcomics.com/index?sid=105
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Indeed, if there are no features or decorations, and it's liquid, and you can upload a background color or pattern, then you would seem to be in need of only one additional style.
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Bengo

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gamedemon, below, has a good idea, but it's harmed by the fact that all your styles have at least some minor design features. For example, the crease under the masthead on this one: http://lilnyet.com/ And it would probably be impossible to lose that top edge and corner curves.
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gamedemon

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if you want to use the whole screen, just adjust the cellspacing of a divider widget. you can see what i mean at http://gamedemon.org (my site is under construction. the links on the first page don't work yet
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Bengo

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That's a great idea, but I have 275+ web pages already. You've got me thinking, but I believe a liquid layout template is the only good option. Please tell me if you disagree.
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Hi,

Thanks for clarifying, I thought that was what you were after, I was just confused by your example.

We're working on a new Style structure that should allow for the following:
- Editable banner
- Editable logo area
- Editable background image
- Editable footer
- Liquid layout of some, if not all, Styles

The team are busy with a number of new features so I'm not able to say when this will be available. We'll no doubt be shouting about it when it is!

Thanks for your patience and support!
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by editable banner do you mean edit the size? because we can already change the image!!
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Bengo

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That sounds great. The footer makes me think of a comment to pass on to development, if possible. It would be excellent to have a navigation widget that can be edited.

Let me explain: A typical webcomic has navigation buttons under it that jump to FIRST, PREVIOUS, NEXT, LATEST. (See a simpler variation at http://scratchinpostcomics.com/ ). If you use linked images, it means importing up to four images and affixing a link to them. There is also pagination to consider, and some comics add a 5th link to ARCHIVES.

If there were one widget, like a divider widget with more cells, that "read" as separate images in each cell for the purpose of linking, that would be awesome. I get so tired of doing navigation work on every page from scratch.

In my other comic ( http://lilnyet.com/ )I am just using arrows but it's ugly and I would like to use images. I am getting away with two but more are standard, plus room for a page number. A six-cell widget that allowed the importation of a designated set of standard objects plus a page number change would be great, assuming not all the cells required filling.

This would really put you out front compared to other comics options I have seen.
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Thanks Bengo - your input is really valued! We will pass your info on...