Blog manger kills closing div tags

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It's simple!

WHY DOES THE BLOG MANAGER DELETE < / div > tags.
This is killing my sites styling.

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Does anybody have a solution seeing as though, after 6 months after 1st reporting Yola has still not fixed this major bug :(
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Jeremy Paton

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Hi Jeremy,

I have never tried using DIV's within the blog. I presume this is related to content HTML rather than the CSS affecting the blog?
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Well I have certain css related to certain classes defined in Div tags. without the close div tag this styling which should contain only each post is now "over-flowing" and thus including later Div tags.

For instance if you go and create a new post and select HTML edit and containing something in a div it is impossible to close it. As every time you type </ div> the blog manager deletes it.

Its so infuriating and I let Yola know about this months ago. But this is typical of them. Over the last 4 years using their service I don't recall them ever ACTIVELY repairing a bug report I submitted.
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I understand. I knew the blog had limited ability to contain added HTML but didn't know that it included DIV's. I don't think that there would be a workaround for this either unless all the styling you wish to add was held in a file and you could address that. I somehow think that the blog wouldn't cope with that either.

I hope that they can get to the blog soon. It's such an orphan.
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The blog is a joke.

However with that said the blog is perfectly capably of handling CSS style on-top of that you it can handle plenty of HTML, including the use of DIV tags. It is just closing </ div> tags which it seems to kill.

I would actually really like an official Yola rep to respond to this!
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Hello everybody

It is true that our blog currently takes low priority relative to other features. We encourage people to rather make use of the Tumblr widget until we are in a position to prioritize the Yola blog more highly. However, we are looking into this bug with a view to getting it fixed.
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I agree that Tumblr is good. The problem though is with the people who already have a Yola blog going. It's really not feasible to stop their Yola Blog and start a Tumblr. I had asked sometime back if some sort of tool could be made to allow Yola Blog users to migrate their blog over to Tumblr. The request was initiated with the persons support it seems but no feedback has been given on the request.

I know there is a backlog of requests for development but after such an extended period of neglect, may I ask again that this be attended to? There are issues like potential SEO penalties for these users of the Yola Blog, some have invested years of work into this facility and it's a record of a body of work. This really should be respected and supported. Enough time has gone bye.
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Hi Gop. These requests have been passed on. However, the only feedback we have right now is that it is not scheduled for the short to medium term. Building a migration tool would not be a trivial exercise and we do not have capacity to tackle it at this time.
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Has Yola made any significant improvements/changes to the blog widget in the past 3+ years. As far as I am aware nothing has ever been done to it.

And Also I would like to +1 GOP comment however, personally I think Tumblr is more a mix between a blog and a social network and I find that though the widget looks great it is not a real alternative to a full blog.

Personally I think Yola should stop using the Tumblr widget as an excuse for what is honestly a shockingly bad blog system that is rather buggy to say the least.
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Why has this not been fixed yet?
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Sorry actually I can't leave it there:

WHY ON EARTH IS SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS FIXING A </ div> DELETION BUG SUCH A BIG PROBLEM?

Do you have any idea what this renders your blog manager. Because of it every < div > becomes a sub div of the previous retched div.

Do you understand what this means? Because when I think of Yola's engineering team I see this:

YOLAS DEV TEAM

/End Rant

PS: Wow first time I have ever been spiting furious at Yola :/
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Hello Jeremy

We understand your frustration on this, but we'd like to point out to you to communicate with us in a respectful manner acccording to the Forum Guidelines if you want to keep participating in our forum. The delay on this issue has nothing to whatsoever to do with the talent of our engineers and everything to do with the workload currently assigned to them. Regrettably the fix is not as simple as you think as it would involve either majorly overhauling the Yahoo text editor that our blog depends on or implementing a new one. We do not have capacity to tackle this at the present time.

As mentioned above, we will look into this as soon as there is capacity available.

Please also note that Yola is not a blog provider in the first place, but a website builder for small businesses. Since we know that blog providers do a better job on this feature than us, we have integrated with Tumblr to meet our users' blogging needs best.
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Could you reconsider returning the facility to download the blog to be then transferred or converted to an SQL database or others? I's a very similar process to the Online Store and moving inventory with the use of a text file.

This would then allow users to transfer the contents to another Blog platform including Tumblr and WP. If a user can't manage the handling of the file subsequently then there is/are other sources that will do this. There are commercial ventures who have offered previously and my reading of the Tumblr migration is that it can be done in a similar style without the need for Yola to release support for this task.

We really are hamstrung on this issue and it seems that the previous facility for downloading did work. if nothing has changed with the Blog then I presume that it is a feasible option from Yola's perspective?
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As GOP said: I would have left Yola months ago if I could have moved my blog, but its locked into Yola.

And since I could not leave with my blog, I decided to stick it out and hope for the best, but due to this decision my sites theme (with is now practically hand coded to all of Yola's little quirks such as the dodgy blog editor) is far to embedded into Yola and as much as I would like to move re-creating my theme on a more advanced system or full CMS is more work than I have time for ATM.

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With all that said. Its been 3 - 4 years since the blog was last dusted. Are we going to see any improvements in the next year?

As if we are not; I may as well start building a new Drupal or WP theme, based on my current CSS, in my free time so that I won't have to renew my Yola silver subscription.

PS: If this is a bug in the "Yahoo text editor" would it not be Yahoo's job to patch it. As far as my understanding goes, the blog text area which has a (Visual Editor) and a (HTML Editor) it appears that as you save each blog it quickly reverts back to the (Visual Editor), which kills the close div tags.

This is kind-of unsurprising as just about every visual editor (Drupal and WP, mess up what you have coded in the HTML editor.