Captcha email address protection

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has anyone used the Carnegie Mellon University "ReCapthca" for protecting email addresses on Synthasite web-pages? If so any problems or suggestions on the experience?
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This is easy to install and does protect your email from bots.

http://mailhide.recaptcha.net/
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I know I'm on the wrong track here Peter, but I thought I'll share this
anyway. I tried this a while back. Not long enough to comment
on whether it's any good or not though. http://www.ianr.unl.edu/email/encode/
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I think OK Boomer.
One advantage of your find is that everything is on the one page.

I like it. Thanks Boomer.
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This looks very promising. Has someone installed either of these options on a SynthaSite website yet? I have been looking at the reCAPTCHA instructions an they seem to involve more than a simply HTML copy and paste.
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I installed it but i don't really thinks its really suitable for my site...
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Hi Monique,

It is a copy and paste facility which I'll demonstrate:

1. Go to http://mailhide.recaptcha.net/
2. Type in your email address and Click the "Protect it" button


3. Copy the HTML code


4. Paste into an HTML widget.
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Monique, VP of Customer Support

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Fantastic! Thank you!
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Peter

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You are welcome.
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Just a little aside on this: The project that this is part of allows the group to digitise books with OCR problems.

The team identify problematic text. They include it in their library of text to recognise and the input from users is added to the interpretation data base.

That means that there is no expensive human resource having to be funded from the Universities funds...As we know a globally diminishing fund. Good to know that you contributed to adding to the digitised global library
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Works perfect !
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That's great John.
Any problems understanding their instructions?
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No ...I really just looked at what you show here and did it in a few seconds...I have wanted to have a live mail address but was warned by many about bots hi-jacking live addresses and spamming in your name...I know it happens as I was spammed once by the Boston Globe trying to sell me Viagra
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Uncle Benjamin would turn in his grave!
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Dear thread reader,
Please also think that sometimes its not a good thing to make your public email harder to access -

You dont see big sites doing this with public emails.
Can you please email synthaiste support - but only if you first manage to solve this annoying puzzle!!

I would reccommend setting up a email account just for your site - let it 'fill' up with SPAM - who cares. Or if you upgrade to a full domain with Yola you can get 50 free email addresses, i do this and have emails that i link on my site and i have personal ones i keep private.

This is nice technology Peter is discussing for some situations but i would keep your public email contact as easy and accessible to users as possible.

You can easily make a email a mailto link in Yola - see tutorials. The easier a user can contact you the better.

Also you can keep track of more than 1 email account without constantly logging in and out by installing a mail client - i use POP PEEPER.

Lee.
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Lee, I have a question for you.
Do you at any stage plan to include the emails of your listings, or
are you only doing names, addresses and phone numbers ??
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Hi Boomer, i am slowly introducing emails (public emails) with the permission of the business. So yes i am - i see it as much as a traditional phone and address directory as i do a collection of web links and emails. I was suprised how many businesses have there own little websites!
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This is what is worrying me with my site.
Thousands of email addresses on one site - a spambot heaven.
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i know i thought of that myself, thats why the emphaisis here is on a public email and with the permission of the individual. Its an internet wide issue,email is or should be the same as a telephone number, some people are ex-directory but most and businesss are not.
I like to email over call, for first contact at least... interesting topic.

In conclusion i think if you have permission its not a problem. Lee
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Yes i have a site now that i can post it on... I can't wait to use it....
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I agree with Lee on this point.

The email protection facility is really a recomendation for private email addresses like you would use on family sites, short order sites, sites of a non-commercial nature. To give the user as much control when they're on your site as possible is what they want. This is loud and clear.

I had a private site some time ago with an email address on it. It was botted and the consequences were somewhat distressing.
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Peter. i have used paint and put my email in the picture. So no robot can copy it. (Until someone makes a robot/programme's that does)
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Have a look here, Lee & Peter. I'm reading it at the moment.
http://websitehelpers.com/spam/
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That's right Shaq.

I think a site like yours which is intiamte and inviting is appropriate for a human direct input. People are more than interested before they get to the point of contacting you.I doubt that those people would see it as a negative issue.
If your site was a highly competitive commercial site there would be the real risk of " blow this I'll go to another site!"
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Well my site is the most unique. it may go into the Guinness world of records soon
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I just hyperlink it to mailto:emailaddresshere
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@Boomer,

interesting read. Thank you. The relevant aprt in my experience was

f you think, "That's okay, I have a spam filter," then you're in for a nasty surprise. Your filter will sometimes send real messages to your spam folder by mistake, and you won't see them. If you think you can just check your spam folder occassionally, can you really do that when you get hundreds or thousands of spam messages a day? And if you think it's okay because you're not currently getting that much spam....if your email address is on a web page, then someday you will.

The point is, spam filters are not a solution. You have to prevent spam in the first place. And the first step is removing any plain address from the web ASAP."

I was getting 200 spams through the filter a day. OK a poor filter I agree but that was the reality.

The form is almost an ideal solution for business queries except that they tend not to be configured to bring up the posters original query. That really is important and it should be able to be setup.
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thanks boomer, i saw that after asking the question. which do you think?
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This is something I've been trying to avoid, but have to impliment on my site.
I personally hate pop-up boxes where i have to click on a button, so
I won't go this route.

I would like to have a normal looking email link, but secure!!
I'm going to see if i can find some other script. I'll let you and
Peter know if I find anything.
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BTW Lee I found this for you as well.
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicin...
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thanks Boomer, looking forward to your results.
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Have a look at this as well: http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicin...
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In Captcha?

Yes. that's what it's saying. The email adress is then displayed after yourve 'solved" the interpretation. The bots and OCR's haven't managed to break it yet.

The challenge is not consistent. They're all failed OCR recognitions.
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I have a feeling that it won't be. It's very systematic and Bots are probably better than people at systematics :)
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@lee,

I think you can apply this on a site basis.
Don't know how but if you're interested read their intro stuff.
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@Boomer,

Thank you for that.

I am trying to answer you as a comment and it's only giving me "reply" option. Sorry it's down the bottom of the post.

maybe a Chrome thing. haven't noticed previously
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I think you just like showing off your champ badge all the time ;-)
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It's certainly noticeable :(
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LOL
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This isn't about us getting spam that is the major problem...It is about preventing your live e mail link from being harvested....Major sites will use some sort of email encoding software for protection....Many use exactly what Peter has shared here.