Domain/subdomain architecture

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Hi,

Can someone quickly explain how my original synthasite.com subdomain and the "real" "www.mysite.com" domain are connected?

eg scratchinpostcomics.com and scratchinpost.synthasite.com

I am finding minor evidence of leakage across my sub and primary sites. For example, ads pointed at one site are sending traffic to both. I have investigated all the usual suspects, like ad addresses, crawler traffic, multiple links from a site, shared domains, etc. and I would like professional advice about whether this is possible, or if it falls within the performance shortcomings of analytics.

In general, I find most sites are dead on, but some are way off, with, for example, Project Wonderful reporting 30 hits to a site, with GA reporting one hit to the main domain and one to the subdomain. I have tons of screen grabs to document this.

I am well versed in the differences between Project Wonderful reporting and GA and have screened out cases that can theoretically be explained by that.

There is also some evidence of traffic being counted twice. Not much, but a bit.

Regardless of the answer, I think this kind of issue is further argument for clearing up pre-registrar double sites, if possible.

I have asked a pretty specific question, and I would like to know the answer regardless, but if what I am describing sounds like madness, I would like to hear that opinion as I will revisit my conclusions.

No one using Project Wonderful or Google Analytics should fret. I am describing a phenomenon that involves less than 1% of all my ad traffic, which in turn is the minor part of my total traffic.

If things are still hectic, set this aside for a bit, but please do look at it when you can.

Thanks,
Bengo
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Hi Bengo -

I'm following up with you via the email you sent us for some clarification and I'll post back here for all to see once we have things figured out.

Thanks for your patience!
Chris
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Oh, and for the record, I don't think the question is madness at all!

The data will help us determine what's going on - we should all learn something from this...thanks for posting it.
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Thanks for the reply. I want to mention that I think a portion of the tangle is from this:

- You are supposed to install Webmaster Tools code as assigned: each site gets its own code
- Google wants subdomains and domains to each have their own code
- But, we can't access subdomains to install it
- Consequently, I installed subdomain short term on the home page of the domain, which resulted in verification of the subdomain
- I then installed the domain code in its place, replacing the subdomain code
- Now both the domain and subdomain were verified by Google WT
- However, the subdomain code is not published anywhere on the subdomain site now, so any routine check would de-verify it
- This may explain why three of my subdomains have been de-verified, but it does not explain why one domain has been as well. I am going to study that one and report back.
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I checked the WT code in the de-verified domain. The code on the index page differed from any other code I have -- the last seven characters were re-ordered and one changed.
I have no explanation.
Installing the correct code and requesting verification was successful for the domain.
I will not attempt to re-verify any subdomains until I hear from you with guidance.
Appreciate the help!
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Cosmic Sensorium

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I ran into some of this early on, and figured to unpublish my site at the synthasite subdomain. currently, my site is only published at my domain: http://cosmicsensorium.com
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Bengo

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That is valuable information. Thank you.

It got me to thinking about republishing the subdomain with a redirect, or at least redirect guidance, as there are still some sites linking to the sub which are slow to update it.

Was there any downside to your strategy?
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I had very low volumes of traffic when I did this, not that many incoming links, and I didn't notice any downsides. Both sites were identical, including GA and WT codes, and both were pointing to the same place. Now that I checked back on this, I think this might work for you:

After unpublishing your full site from yoursite.synthasite.com domain, you can make a "new" site using the same synthasite domain you had before. you can add some text + a link saying you moved. I pulled the following piece of code from another thread on here, it makes an automatic redirect:

<!--
<meta http-equiv="Refresh" content="2 url=http://www.yourwanteddomain.com">
-->

where 2 is the amount of seconds waiting to redirect. just drop it in an html widget (without the <!-- -->). I tried it out for myself and it works. you can see an example at http://cosmicsensorium.synthasite.com. hope this helps!