Google Webmaster Tools and LynxView

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Greetings. Ive added the google meta tag where I should and google bots have done their stuff of crawling the yola page (apparently) because it gives me detail on key words, and a top search query. However the icon on the home page just wont change to green and when I use the search "site:earlwag.com" I get told it cant be found. (Thats the background). Then webmaster tools suggests using LynxView so you can see what their bot sees. OK so off we go to the wonderful wizard of Lynx and get told that my site doesnt allow Lynx to do its magic. To let it do its magic Lynx says "all" I need to do is:
"create another web page in the same location as the page(s) you're trying to view, called delorie.htm"
(Now the Yola prob) I cant seem to create a page called this because I cant put the .htm extn.
FYI I have set up both earlwag.com and www.earlwag.com on webmaster but there are differences in the results between these eg both have sitemap ticked but earlwag.com has 4 urls submitted and 0 indexed urls whereas www.earlwag.com has 4 urls submitted and 1 indexed, earlwag.com has no keywords listed whereas www.earlwag has keywords listed, earlwag.com has no crawl errors whereas www.earlwag has one 404 error for /search-tool.php, , earlwag has no available data under the HTML suggestions www.earlwag has duplicate title tags.

While some of the problem may be with the webmaster tools thought I would raise first with you because google is coming back to the one same site just with or without the www so dont understand how results can be different if the site is the "same" once the bot gets to it either "directly" or through the www front door.
Thanks
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Posted 8 years ago

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Hello Earl

Unfortunately, this is a bit out of my depth. I've asked a colleague to come aboard and share her insight on this. She's currently offline right now. Thank you for your patience and I apologize for the delay in the meantime.
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No problem, thanks for taking it onboard and for speedy acknowledgement. Cheers
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Hello Earl,

When you submit your site to Google Webmaster you only need to submit your site as the www version, you don't need to submit the site twice, this will bring back inaccurate results. So, if you have done this, you can go into your Google Webmaster account and delete the non www version URL.

The search engine will view www.mysite.com and mysite.com as two separate websites. So we have remedied this by automatically putting in something called a 301 Redirect to solve this problem. What this means is that the www version of your domain is the primary (canonical) and the search engines when accessing your domain will see this. Also, when anyone tries to visit the non www version of your domain they will automatically be taken to your primary domain. In essence, this turns www and non www into the same site in the search engines eyes.

What you are wanting to do with the delorie.htm file is not possible in Yola as it is not possible to create pages with this extension.

What I would suggest is that you go and remove the non www version from your Webmaster Tools and after that re-submit your sitemap. Then give it some time to work itself out and for Google to start supplying results on your site.

I hope this helps. Let us know in a while if the problem does not seem to have worked out.

Emmy
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Emmy,
THANK YOU for the great response. Yes I read up on the canonical stuff. The google webmaster info however states:

"Step 2: Update your settings
To Google, http://example.com and http://www.example.com are completely different sites and can display completely different content. You can avoid potential problems (and get a better view of your data) by specifying your preferred domain. (Make sure you've added each version of your site to your account.)"

That last comment "make sure you've added each version of your site to your account" is why i loaded both www and without www. I did notice that in the site config section you have the option to "not set a preferred domain" which I have done.

From here I will go and remove all the Yola webmaster tool listings (none of the Yola ones have worked even though some I only listed as www) and start again. Given that using Lynview cant be accommodated I will ignore this other "gem" of operating advice that google (the experts?) give.
Thanks again, have a great day, without being too pessimistic me thinks I will be back again.
Cheers
Earlwag

(Just as a comment Ive noticed that google can pick up forum listings of domain names (eg Earlwag) and list them when you do a google search very quickly but when it comes to indexing a web site that you purposely supply them the information of you get zip. Ill be looking to see how fast this yola transcript makes it into search results LOL)
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Emmy,
Did you miss me LOL. Update on the google. I removed all the Yola sites from the webmaster area about 2 hours ago. Ive now just done a search in google (using the site:xxx.com) and my sites now come up!!!!! BUT (and sorry but always a but) the search results include some internal Yola housekeeping stuff encountered when I was initially setting up the pages eg the "Click here to start typing your text" page comment. If you click on this search result you get a 404 not found but any reason why it shows up in the first place and how to get rid of it?

Thanks for your great assistance to date, remember it was by slow steady progress that the snails made it to the Ark. (hope the image attachment works)
Cheers

Earl

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Hi Earl - Emmy is currently offline. I have forwarded your reply to her. She will reply to you once she is back online.
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Hi Earl,
Yep, I can tell you why that is happening. This search engine indexed your site while that page was still there, and has not yet removed it from the index. It will just take some time for Google to re-spider your site and see that there have been changes. They will then remove from their index any old information or links that are not valid, such as the one you are seeing.

The best way to get Google to crawl your site often and update the index with your most recent content is to add fresh content on a regular basis. A really easy way to do this is with a blog as this allows you to quickly and easily add content on a weekly/daily basis. Here is a link to a tutorial with more information on this topic: Blogging with Yola. Your site topic lends itself very well to consistent blog posts as there are thousands of tips to be given on health and beauty!

Emmy