New Website Idea!?

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Ok, so I've been criticized A LOT on my sites, the only "decent" site people besides myself like is my encyclopedia http://youcanneverbetoosmart.com.

However, I have an idea that would be more my idea than using ideas already in existence.

I am probably the #1 inquisitive person in this World, I spend 18 hours a day learning! Reading books, reading web resources, etc. And it's not only with "entertainment" type of stuff, the majority of it is Educational and Academics.

What if I documented and taught everything I had learned, I will only list topics that I can personally write on without the use of sources (although I'll probably still source).

My slogan?

A Journey to become the smartest person!

lol, I don't know... just an idea!?
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That's cool
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Donald, I still wish you would choose a small topic and pursue it. A niche site, as discussed in another thread. I think that would bring you more satisfaction in the long run. And also more success. How about a site on your geographic location? You were in the military, I think? - how about a site on some aspect of your military experience?

Please choose something small, something very specific.

My belief is that few of of us, as individuals, have the capacity to create a "big" site. Your "never too smart" site is not a bad idea, but it basically puts you in competition with Wikipedia. How can you hope to compete with a site that not only has thousands of people working for it but also a 10-year head start on you? The truth is: you can't.

How about one site on a truly small, narrow topic -- a site that you can start and finish within, say, two months. On a topic of interest to a small segment of the general population. A site that will give you the satisfaction of building a site that you have actually finished!
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yes, I understand the concept of that. But what happens when my site can't go any further? When that topic has been fully covered? I'm looking for a LIFE LONG project, one with unlimited potential. I don't want to work on a site for two years and then the next 30 years hope for a revenue to a site with no new content!

Understand my concern for this?
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My military experience was simply a 9 to 5 job... It was perhaps the most rewarding and exciting job I've ever had, but like I said, after basic training, I just woke up at six, got to my duty station (job) at 7, worked til 4, trained, ate, went to bed!

Do you suppose the world wants to know how to take apart and rebuild an M270 rocket launcher? lol... the only people interested in that are those going into that field in the military, the market would be extremely low and no potential. I suppose maybe they wanna know about basic training, but by the time I reach the gas chamber discussion, I might be persuading people to rethink their decision in enlistment.
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And like you said, "a site you have actually finished"... I'm not sure I want to ever "finish" a site, I want the layout and design to be finished, but as for new fresh content, I wanna always be active in adding that stuff.
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I am by far, not the type of person that wants to sit back and collect an income, I could have a "finished" site not in need of new content making millions a month, and I will still want to be adding content. That's the reason for choosing ideas that will always call for more content, I never want my site to be finished! But I want it to be well organized so my users can easily find stuff they are looking for too. Like Wikipedia, I know that if a topic exists, I can most likely find it. Regardless the topics I choose, I want the organization to be that of Wikipedia (easy to navigate), etc.
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Hi Keara and Donaild,
Keara, Donald and me know each other and Keara is the elder.(and I'm the smallest)

yes Donald, you need to follow Keara's advice.

First, lets compare some encyclopedias. Encarta , Brtanica and Wikipedia.

Everyone know, Wikipedia is the best !
Why? Because people know it, love it and contribute.
The same rule applies everywhere.

Your idea to create an encycopedia is good, but the problem is , do you everything ?

Do you know about Tracert ?
Do you know the day Gmail released?
Do you know what is the charge of a Kathode Ray ?
Do you know where the Violin born ?

Don't forget, people know!

(answers for above is , tracert- tracked record of a path between internet user and web host.
Gmail birth - 1st of April 2004
charge of Kathode Ray - minus
Violin born in - Sri Lanka.(original in Sri Lanka, but new design is from Italy)

but, if you are a SEO expert ,
you know how Google fetch data.
Sitemap.Org protocol
Google IPs
Season IDs
Yahoo inteligent search
Bing-powered facebook search
etc etc

thats why we (Keara and me) say you to choose your niche.

If you are interested in DNS hosting, try it , read about it, ask people for help, post in forums , help people, get their feedback...
Then you can make your BIG DNS hosting company.

Start with a tiny resources,

take me as an example(I'm not a hero okay ?)

I dont have a credit card, and havent paid to any internet company. I asked somewhere to take a job(even Yola) , but had no luck. I'm still lack of resources( even a good Internet connection) , but I have a target.

I'm still studing, helping people, asking their help , reading, using Wikipedia , etc etc. One day, I will become an expert in my niche.
That day, I will defeat every competitor and spread my law in my niche.

Keara made a fantastic site about Angelisco (painter) and she is pretty enough happy about it. No one can beat her on that field.

(I said i havent paid anyone, yes, I rented my techrome.com to pay 50% when I start to earn.)
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yea, perhaps... but people don't always write on what they know as long as they can accurately find reliable resources to help them! But finding my niche isn't easy, there's two things I know... Martial Arts and Math... but I've come to roadblocks in both of those.
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Hey Donald ... I know we got off on the wrong foot, however your new idea has a lot of merit and can be very successful for you. and it is a life long project.

My take on how this can work for you is ... you offer all your knowledge in a very humble way ... You can also sell products and information related to all the research and experience you have. A site like this takes time to build but can be very rewarding in the long run.

Try to see this vision ... the site starts out offering some books and educational products. Along with your personal approach to helping people, you then start a forum or chat room ... posting threads on helpful subjects. A site like this takes time to build but can be very rewarding in the long run.

and I see you making money at this.... good luck

cheers
Todd
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thanks c2print...

What I see, is this kind of site can be a "niche" site with expansions.

I will choose ONE topic to start out with and explain that ONE topic to it's fullest potential... after that, I will add a topic!

If I do this site, I will get a list of topics together and use the google keyword suggest tool to find out what's popular and how much the average cpc is so I get a decent ad revenue.... then I will start with the "best" topic based on that!
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Donald, are you familiar with the expression "straw-man"?
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nope! What's that mean?

Ok, here it goes, about to "learn" something!
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Donald, if you want to keep coming up with huge, empire-building sites that go nowhere, you can always do that. Ayesh and I like you, and we appreciate that you have some excellent qualities. And that is why we have tried to encourage you in a somewhat different direction -- because we would like to see you enjoy some success.
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yea, you see though... I'm not just looking for a regular income, I'm hoping to obtain (within 5 to 10 years) A LOT of income. Point me in the direction of a website with one main topic, who's owner had virtually no investment and consisted of ONE or TWO people building it, now with a large income! Then maybe I'll be convinced it can happen.
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Donald, let's try it the other way around. You point out the sites that were built by a single person and which are now huge income-producing giants. And then let's ask what the chances are that you will be able to replicate that success.
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Donald, no one is saying that you should have one niche site only. You can have ten, if you like. You can have an endless number of them. The problem is that you insist on going after the "silver bullet" site but you don't have the resources to do so.
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Wikipedia started with ONE man's idea, when it first started, virtually only one person worked on it, now the twelve or so owners are making $80,000 a year and the main owner, I think it's Jim or something like that is making $240,000 a year. ONE IDEA and it's not a "niche" site but yet it is. It's an "Encyclopedia" - niche, and yet it's many topics (millions) - not a niche
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Donald, if you think you are going to come up with the next Wikipedia idea, fine. So far, though, your ideas are not particularly innovative. It takes a fantastic idea and tons of perseverance to make something like Wikipedia come to life and start producing big money. Do you have those?
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no, it was an example of ONE MAN'S IDEA and how a "not a niche" site became so large and rich! I definitely have perserverence... I work 18 hours a day, 7 days a week on my sites hoping to get somewhere, with the exception of taking care of my kids and playing with them during that time (those are my breaks). I believe my new idea can be considered a fantastic one, since everything in the site would actually be what I have learned and fully understand.
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Planning to come up with the next Wikipedia or Amazon.com is like planning to win the lottery. Yes, it could happen but the odds against it are astronomical. In the meantime, you are foregoing small income streams in order to pursue the chimera of a huge oil strike.
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how'd you know I was planning to win the lottery? lol
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Yes Donaild,
My space was made by an university student.
Facebook was by a couple of friends.
Yahoo - 2

but remember , Yahoo is not their first experience of making a web site.

I personally dislike Google, because they buy everything they can(Feedburner , Blogspot , Analytics , etc)

yes , you can be smart!

There are thousands of other sites that get pretty thousands of dollars. Don't target money first. Try to make it.

Your plan should be your own idea and must be your own dream.
Making sites about a subject that you don't like is a pain.
If you love a subject, the more you visit it and update it.

Good Luck !
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yes, I know, MySpace was made by two people, Tom and someone else, Tom is the main guy, most people don't even know about the second person. But, was it indeed with little to no investment? I'm unsure of that! And did you know, that when MySpace was started, it's idea was similar to craigslist? It was originally suppose to be a directory, then changed four years into creation. It took four years to become social networking.
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and with my newest idea, I would only include topics to my interest which is A LOT of topics, I like many things, especially those you go to college for, I've especially thought about Aerospace Engineering
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Ayesh, your post contains a lot of wisdom. :-)
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Donald, you say you have perseverance. You have started three "big" sites, though, and they are all stalled now. That is *not* a demonstration of perseverance. It is the opposite.

Well, Ayesh and I have done our best. We will know the outcome of this newest project in a few weeks. Perhaps we can resume this conversation then.
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yea, perhaps they have been stalled, with my encyclopedia, I took a wrong turn that made it difficult (and its fixable) but I listed topics in the direction I would include them, but they don't all exist, I have over 12,000 topics listed which don't exist, with this new Idea, I was going to only list topics as I include them.
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What's a good site name for a programming / scripting language site? It would include topics not just for web design but other developing as well!
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ok, I'm confused... how is this guy worth $3 million dollars?

http://www.milliondollarhomepage.com/
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Donald ... that site is worth around $68,000 with about 30,000 daily page views

cheers
www.facepuppet.com
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Hi, Donald,

If you notice the "big" sites like Wikipedia, Facebook , twitter etc. are more successful because of their functionality rather than their content. Anyone can contribute to Wikipedia, it's easy to have a page on Facebook, it's easy to twitter, etc. etc. So unless you're a genius programmer or know one who is and you can come up with some new function, you're likely not going to be the next Wikipedia, etc., etc. And another aspect of making money on a website is traffic--if you build it they won't necessarily come. You still have to do the usual types of advertising, marketing, etc. that have been around for years and years and before the internet began. The so-called internet marketing gurus are making money but what they don't tell you is that they're spending thousands upon thousands of dollars on things like Pay per Click campaigns. Us average Yola users don't have that kind of money. But I do know of people who have worked out a little niche for themselves selling products, blogging about a particular topic, etc. and are making a decent income. So, I have to add my voice to Keara's and Ayesh's go for a niche of some kind. Personally, I think you can do something with Martial Arts--just narrow it down. You can always expand later. :) I wish you all the best!!
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Hi Diane, Keara , c2print and Donald,

this thread is becoming a turn point for most people.
I like Diane's idea.
If you created a niche(not on a niche subject) site with a new experience to users , surely it will become a hit.

Think about yourself, what you need to do with Internet, and have no any easy way ?
Build it!