Online store with Paypal 'merchant' services features

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Hey there :) About a week ago I was asking questions about certain features I needed for my online store and pretty much it all was Paypal related in the way that my store was set up and run, I followed the link provided by Yola staff, ended up phoning Paypal and talking with someone in their Merchant Services area. They guided me to upgrade to a "Premier" account which offers many more features for an online store which will be fantastic IF I can figure out how to get the features such as "Inventory Management" from the Paypal site to my Yola website ?????

Is it a matter of maybe copy and pasting code from Paypal to my site? Does anyone here use the features of a Premier Paypal account for their online store that could give me some helpful easy "how to do" tips?

Thanks Yola staff, i'm finally being more confident and positive now that I think i'm getting there "slowly" but surely.

Thanks in advance

INDI
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Hello Indi

I am not a holder of Premier account but if the Inventory Management can be added to your site via HTML coding, then it may be possible to add this to your site.

Here's a thread which I thought might be of interest to you which also talks about tracking inventory: http://gsfn.us/t/luit

I hope that helps. Hopefully others who have experience in this area will be able to share their advice as well.
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Hi, thanks for answering, that bit of info will help me but I still need to ask someone who is already set up and running a store using the additional features of the 'premier' account or 'merchant services' area.

Since Ed the honey pot man seems so knowledgeable and set up in this area, is there a way I can contact him and ask for guidance without hogging the forum? I don't want to break any Yola rules but maybe if Ed can give me some directions on how to set my store up i'd be forever greatful.

Is there a means of PMs here on Yola or not? I'll keep trying myself but sometimes it makes more sense and falls into place a lot easier if you have someone that knows what they are doing to guide you.

thanks.....
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Hello Indi

You could try going to his site and using his contact form. I hope that helps!
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Now why didn't I think of that .....lol....thanks. Didn't want to break any rules so best I asked first I figured.

Wasn't trying to go over Yola staffs heads either, just thought that since Ed seems to have set up his online store quite sucessfully he could give me some specific guidance.

Thank you very much for your time Sanja.
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Sorry to have been away for so long everybody but after a few attacks and a few other health issues I kinda fell out of everything. Haven't quite got the heart for it or for that matter a complete grip on it all and I am not sure that I ever will. Had too many close calls to speak of and if the fat lady sings well then that is that I suppose... Still working on getting 4 or 5 of my inventions to market to help better mankind and make those millions. Uphill both ways in this economy LOL...

Hello Sharon and welcome to the land of widgets and websites. You recently messaged me and asked:

"Basically, I deal in trading cards. I first started out building "just a website" and was enjoying it but now 12 months on and after some time away i'm back into it but since I have approx 5000+ excess cards I need to sell them off and thought of turning my website into a webstore, I do not wish to sell on Ebay.

Last week I contacted Paypal and they suggested then upgraded my Paypal account to "premier" within the Merchant Services area which apparently gives me more features that should work well for an online store.

I really don't know where to start with the thing, I did a practise of just uploading 2 cards and had 2 friends from different parts of the world buy them and also change the qty they wanted to see if Paypal was fine, it was BUT I really really need to be able to change or insert the postage charges to each order then send out the invoice for payment because the postage fees change depending on what they buy (other card related products, not just cards). So I need help there but also I don't know how to get the features from Paypal to my site :( Apparently there is an "Inventory Management" feature which will automatically re-calculate and change my qty available as people buy which is a big bonus but again, I don't know where or how to start with putting my online store together on Yola."



Yes, you should upgrade to "Premier" so that you can benefit from the additional features available.

I think that in your case (due to the sizable quantity of cards that you have) your best bet would be to break up the bulk of your collection into more manageable packs and sell them as sets of 5,10, 20 etc. That way you can sell them quicker and not need to set up, track and then manage 5000 individual Paypal items which would drive any person nuts. Simply take a picture of each card or grouping of cards and include them to a text widget with a detailed description of each card in the pack then add an HTML widget with the "Buy now" or "Add to cart" button below the image and description text widget. If and or when your customer buys a pack they are given the option to continue shopping or continue to checkout. If they click "continue shopping they are automatically redirected to the page on your site where they last were at. For your more collectible cards that you wish to sell individually then simply add those one at a time.

It is imperative on your "one-off" packs or single items that have only one of that you set a "quantity in stock" amount to "1" so that you do not sell more than you have or need to cancel orders and return funds to those who buy when you have already sold out.

Here are the instructions for limiting stock quantity:

1) Sign into your Pay-pal account
2) Click the "Merchant services" tab in the horizontal menu
3) Click the "Buy Now Button" or the "Add to Cart Button"
4) Choose button type and enter name and payment details
5) Click the "Track inventory" tab
6) Check the "Track inventory" box
7) Enter the "Item ID" and input your quantity and alert quantity
8) When done editing click "Create Button"
9) In the next window and in the (Website) code box click the "Select Code"
10) Right click on the highlighted text and click "Copy"
11) Open your site editor and drag an HTML widget where you need it
12) In the HTML widget paste the code
13 Then Preview or Update your site or page

This will ensure that your product is never oversold as well as give you an email letting you know when your stock gets low. If you have a one-off pack then once it is sold and someone else tries to buy they will be given an alert that the item is no longer available. Once you sell something you should take it off your site and remove the item from your Paypal account manager as soon as possible.

If you have set up shipping in your Paypal Profile and want to set a specific amount as the shipping basis for all your buttons, you need to:

1. Sign into your Pay-pal account
2. Click the "My account" tab
3. Click the "Profile" link (below the merchant services tab)
4. in the "Selling Preferences" column click the "Set Up Shipping Calculations" link
5. Click either the "Domestic" or "International" start button
6. Select currency and states you ship to and click "Continue" (You can set up zones with a different amount per zone or states)
7. (On next page) Set Up Domestic Shipping Methods (You can choose to calculate shipping based on Order Amount, Weight, or Quantity)
8. Click the "Continue" button
9. Verify information and click "Save shipping methods"

If you sell internationally and have different shipping charges for each country or groups of countries then follow the directions above and "Add new shipping" method to reflect the charges for those countries individually. If you wish the same charge for all the countries then on step (6) highlight "All countries and territories". When someone buys from you and enters their country of origin then your pre-set shipping amount will be shown for that country.

Here's how to edit your button to include shipping:

1. Sign into your Pay-pal account
2. Click the "Merchant services" tab in the horizontal menu.
3. Click the "Buy Now Button" or the "Add to Cart Button".
4. Choose button type and enter name and payment details.
5. In Paypal step 1 (Choose button type and enter payment details) for the "Shipping" section leave blank to use your pre-sets that you set for each country or to use specific amount type your desired shipping amount in the blank field.
6. When done editing click "Create Button".
7. In the next window and in the (Website) code box click the "Select Code".
8. Right click on the highlighted text and click "Copy".
9. Open your site editor and drag an HTML widget where you need it.
10. In the HTML widget paste the code.
11. Then Update your site.

Note that the buttons do not have the amount shown and you will have to add this to a text widget with item name and description. The Paypal window which opens when the button is clicked will show the price to reflect the shipping charges once your customer selects their country of origin.

For invoices (not entirely necessary with the buttons) just:

1. Sign into your Pay-pal account
2. Click the "Merchant services" tab in the horizontal menu.
3. Click the "Send invoices" button and follow the instructions shown.

I wish that I had the time available to help more but I have a mountain to move myself... ;) Consider yourself lucky to have pulled me out of retirement. LOL Kidding...

I am confident that after a few buttons you will be an old pro at it all and it will be a piece of cake for you...

You can find me with my head in the honey pot here...

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Miss everybody and if I ever figure myself out I shall return... if not then of course. Happy website building ;)

Mr. Ed
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We all miss you too, Ed. I see you haven't lost the touch. Your posts are almost as long as Sanja's screenshots ;-) Hope you get well soon!
Sorry to jump in on your thread, INDI.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah... Don't get all sappy on me B. Next you'll be on your knees begging me to stay. There are plenty O Champs in the sea to help out around here when I'm not around. You all have been super helping all the newcomers. Great job everybody...

I'm ever busy trying to get 4 of my products licensed by big companies (It takes time and the projects are too big to make myself). Still looking for homes for a few simpler inventions but think that I need to sit on them until the economy gets better and I can afford to make and then sell myself or until I can find an angel investor to begin manufacturing sooner. I have one that is made for pennies each and could be used billions of times each day globally. (NEVER before seen new beverage related product) Even at nickel profit each it can really add up when fast food restaurants and service station food marts are giving them away to their customers when they sell their beverages. LOL sorry for the cryptic way that I have to share but without an non disclosure agreement I can't get into details. Any secret millionaires on the forums looking to diversify their portfolio and get into a food service manufacturing and distribution business? Have I got the product for you... ;)

LOL

Glad to see so many old faces still around. Congrats Diane well done girl and to John M. you make me feel old there buddy... Good job and great help out of you both...
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Awwww Ed :) I want to thank all the champs and staff for helping me and now I can pass the information that I have been taught onto other Yola users. Hope you get soon well Ed you are certainly missed!
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Nice to see you, Ed! Be good to yourself. I will keep you in my prayers-- both healthwise and investorwise ;) Awesome post as usual, I'm bookmarking it to use for Support!
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WOW Ed.....I thought only I wrote novels.....lol....honestly, I really do appreciate you responding and giving me such information. I'm sorry to read that you are of ill health at the moment and send positive thoughts your way....doing it tuff here in Aussie also and trying to get my site actually in action is giving me something to strive for.

I've been a "quiet" member here dating back to "Synthasite" days and I don't often speak up but I read a LOT and you always were there to jump in and help people...for that....I thank you :)

Tomorrow, since it's getting a tad late here now, I will follow the links you have given me to Paypal.

On the other hand, just a couple of things I need to clear up.....you said about breaking up the qty because of amount of cards I have.... thing is - I may have 5000+ but the actual qty is more like 10,000-15,000. I said 5000 because of the overall total, certain cards I may have 20 copies of the same card, or 40 copies of the same card, or only 2 of the same card.....add all these multiples together and we are getting up around 10,000 so I pretty much I am going to have to list around 5,000 at a guess.

I currently attend a local market 1 day each week with the cards, I present them in folders but that is just 1 copy of each card, here at home I have multiple copies which simply must be sold and i'd like to replicate my folders to my site possibly in a menu fashion, eg: RARITES FOLDER = rares, super rares, ultra rares etc etc etc but I have a total of 9 folders broken up into numerous categories so that's a lot of pages on my site but that's the only way it can be done.

It's getting late here and i'm starting to wander off in how I need to explain exactly what I need to or more the case what I want "to do" so I will drop back tomorrow.

Ed, thank you so very very much for taking the time to respond to me and I will check out the links before I post back here and I wish you the most positive thoughts for your health concerns.

***BTW....curious to know about your other venture you are looking for investors for? Not prying for myself but know a person who is always looking for NEW opportunities here to take on (no promises but no harm either).

Cheers and thank you, until tomorrow.....g'nite.

INDI

**** @ Boomer - no prob at all for jumping in on the thread to talk to your friend :)
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Wow you are a glutton for punishment with so many items my dear...

If I were you I would spend the first day following the instructions above and set up postage/shipping in your Paypal account for each country in the world or group of countries. You will find that rates to the countries in the EU or Asia will be similar and you might be able to combine countries in bulk to make it faster on you to input the fees in your account (Pad the price a little to cover unexpected overages). I would imagine shipping to the Americas would be just as equally priced but that is up to you to research.

Piece of advice: Take a current list of the countries in the world and print it out then open your Australia postal website to use the international postage calculator to calculate postage and then write down the rates next to the country name. The reason that it is best to have all the data in front of you before you follow the Paypal steps from above is to keep you from constantly having to sign in to Paypal. Paypal's website has an inactivity timer and will automatically sign you out after a set amount of time if not in use. Better to do it all at once with all the data in front of you than to sign into your account a few hundred times while using the Australian postal calculator.

As far as the fact that you have large number of duplicates it is simple to set your "quantity in stock" to reflect your on hand supply. Don't forget to set your alert quantity next to the "quantity in stock" so that you will receive an email when you are either sold out or have only one in your inventory. That way you can delete the item from your system and website when sold out.

5000 should take a few months to complete I would imagine. Do your best sellers fist and then the left overs last. After a few days you will be an expert I can assure you.

P.S. After you are finished with them all you can take over as the resident Paypal expert from whoever has that title and offer your tutelage here in the forums when a question should arise. ;)

As to the investor part of my post to Boomer... I was not directly seeking out an investor but simply making small talk. ;) While it would be nice to find an angel investor for this one particular product I don't quite know how a contract might work when the lender is overseas. Adding to the fact that the investment would be sizable due to the scope of the product and its potential revenue. You can have a product that sells 1,000,000 annually, retails for $19.95 and you make $1.00 royalties each on or a product that can sell 1,000,000,000 annually, retail for .10 cents and you make .05 cents each. My product is one of those earn pennies each but sell a boatload products due to its consumable attributes. Even though it only makes 5 cents profit I would take that over the dollar any day. Sadly, I cannot openly discuss the product without some sort of protection.

Anyway... Good luck with your task at hand... ;)
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Hey Ed, you are so very helpful, we do miss you around here. Take care of yourself and get healthy!

Emmy
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A thank you from me too, Ed. I too am working my way through the paypal online store quagmire and appreciate your posts here and previously.

Take care of yourself and best wishes for good health and successful marketing of your inventions.
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Thanks again Ed for your guidance, you've given me encouragement and yes it's going to be a VERY daunting task but it has to be done. I can't compete with sellers on Ebay and my site offers so much related information it just made sense to combine my site with a store.

Originally I was just going to set up different pages and list the cards and link the card name to another website that displayed a picture of the card but now I've opted for a store I can't take that easy way out :(

Going to be a LOT of scanning and uploading first. I am going to input the list of all the cards into a spreadsheet with card name, series, rarity, price etc etc then have it sorted alphabetically, this should help me to have some kind of organisation in my self created chaos.

I'll do the spreedsheet then the scanning then as you advised sit and spend time at Paypal. I know this sounds kinda crazy but I didn't want to sell 'worldwide' if I could help it (unless I can block certain countries), reason for this is the fees and taxes, rates etc for some countries, it's simply not worth it and you find this a lot on Ebay with card sellers, they will specify they "won't ship to........"

I mentioned on another post of mine about a week ago that I tried Joomla because a person I know and bought cards from had a site with them and had VirtueMart married to it, it worked fine and so I opted for a trial....geeez, they say it's suppose to be simple, yeah right!!!! Need to be Einstein just to figure out how to change a template let alone attempt anything else :( I soon bailed outta there real fast and back to the comfort of my half built Yola site :)

Take care of yourself, good luck with any further ventures you take on and thank you for your help here.....maybe if you feel up to it, you might ocassionally drop in and see if I still have my head above water (or above the cards.....lol).

Cheers and thank you.

INDI
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Oops back again, sorry :( I really need to ask this -

* With me creating the online store/catalogue am I doing this in the site building area using the widget for online store in Yola OR am I creating my store/catalogue in Paypal then somehow moving over to my Yola site ???

Reason I ask this is that there seems to be a fair amount of things i'm suppose to be doing in Paypal (buttons, forms etc etc) so thought that I might have to create there.

Obviously I have to upload all the scanned cards to my Yola file manager area - yes and not within Paypal ?????

Going away now before I think about something else to get confused about....lol.

INDI
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Hey Shanon

Just follow steps 6 through 10 in the instructions above. Take the code provided from Paypal and drag an HTML widget on your page then paste the code inside.

Sorry but I have an product proposal I have to get back to...
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Would the next Yola rep who see this thread, delete my post above about the automated paypal buttons?

Thanks to Ed, I see the info I posted is outdated. Indi, please ignore.

My apologies to any who read for not catching this myself.
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Ummmmm, I musta missed something :) Probably a really good thing since i'm easily confused....lol.

Thanks Ed, you've been very generous with your time and your fantastic explanations to different aspects of setting up an online store, thank you thank you thank you :) I am making a folder (a real live old fashioned paper/cardboard one, real life stuff kinda one....lol) and I am printing out all of your Ed-a-Torials and filing in there for quick reference.

So now it's late, tomorrow brings a clear mind and ready to tackle the Paypal side of things....

So far since last night I've managed a Favicon that does actually show in IE (yup, I read all about that last night), the MP3 player that plays upon opening the page (now need to learn how to loop the music), a few Google Gadgets and now off to just play for just 10 mins (yeah right) with the forms and see what gives there.....

Thank you everyone for being so helpfu, Ed, you go to the top of the class.

INDI
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hi i really wish i could have my website with out paying
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Hello Laura,
I did reply to your previous post and am awaiting to hear confirmation of your age.