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Anyone with their own lyrics that aren't currently published anywhere else, please take advantage of submitting them to my site with the name of the artist, album, and a link directing them to you or where they can buy the music and we'll freely (for free) post this link at the bottom of each of your lyrics then email you back with the url to your lyrics on our site. Great opportunity to get some extra customers/visitors to your site. http://lyrics4you.synthasite.com
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  • http://lyrics4you.synthasite.com

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Hey...

I have a concern about this... I think you should search Itunes first before allowing people to download music from a site for free... The music industry is harsh on this,, you could be faced with a fine of over $120,000US per song
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well... if you're talking about my current website.... lyrics 4 you... all I am doing is giving out lyrics not the actual song (just like a lot of other sites) and I will not post copyrighted lyrics without permission from the original artist or publisher.
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I have a partner that researches each song to determine if it's copyrighted or not. If it's not, I'll post the lyrics. If it is, it'll go on a list to obtain permission.
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every song is copywrighted, to prevent people giving it away for free.
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Hi Donald...

I was talking about this part:
where they can buy the music and we'll freely (for free)
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oh... just a misunderstanding... that is where they can PURCHASE MUSIC FROM THE ARTIST OR PUBLISHER not me... for example, if David Archuletta requested lyrics be posted on my site. In return I would refer the visitors to DAVID ARCHULETTA's MUSIC PURCHASING SITE.
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I can usually get permission for free on two conditions... one is, my site is nicely created (which means the artist/publisher likes my site) and two... I provide a link (free of charge) for the people viewing those lyrics to purchase the music.
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well on that condition,
but your in a risky business, thats all i will say.
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oh, I missed your comment in the first place... yes, every SONG is copyrighted, which means others can't write the same lyrics and then PUBLISH the song. But the lyrics alone are not copyrighted, as long as I am not posting the song. I also contacted some people within the music industry, they will be helping me sort some issues out and get some licenses for copyrighted songs.
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ohh, im not "in" with copywright, i dont know any rules and stuff.
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yea, I know... I also know all the laws regarding this business and business in general. I assure you, I am not violating any laws. Any of my lyrics are freely posted (they don't require permission) and if I post any that is copyrighted, I'll also provide a permissions number at the bottom.
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hi Donald,

The lyrics by default are copyright to the author. Thats now almost a universal law. The author of course may give or sell those rights to another party (e.g. a publisher)

Today no-one has to get a certificate of copyright to say that their creative work is legally theirs. they probably would if they sell the right to another ?

That's as I understand based on relatively recent reading.

I would think that a third party who is handing out the lyrics would have to have permission or some kind of legal document that allows them to give this creative work out. Is that what happens? I'd like to know
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actually... you would think by common sense or morale of the author... but I've asked questions prior to this from two already established lyric sites and three published artists I have a relationship with and they all agree that lyrics can be SHARED as long as the LYRICS are not copyrighted (this means the song is not accompanied) and the LYRICS are not SOLD. So far, I'm abiding by these rules. The artist has a secondary option of copyrighting lyrics so that they may not be PUBLISHED even without the song. Which means. I cannot share the song and I cannot post lyrics that have been published alone from the song... this MAY be incorrect... I am SIMPLY going by five professional sources all with just about the same answer.
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Donald i think you should hold the site and take this in to more consideration...

What is your international business number or ABN
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I wouldn't be too concerned about it if I knew of a site which I could create and which could become a hit (a lot of visitors). Creating a website is something I want to do, and I don't know what other website I can create. I asked the other day and for about six hours of talking on this community board, didn't get any good ideas that I actually wanted to do.
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Are you referring to an Australian Business Number? I have an Employer Identification Number issued by the IRS in the USA
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well... I was researching this and came across a couple of forums. A copyright attorney replied to one of them and stated, "words themselves cannot be copyrighted"... the method (singing, combining ingredients, etc.) can be. As long as I for one, am not selling the lyrics, singing the lyrics, or providing a song for free, I am not violating copyright laws. I appreciate the concern... but I do not personally believe I am violating any laws. That is the sixth professional source which told me it's not illegal unless what I just said is violated. If I get in trouble, I'll have a fine to pay (a large one), and the site will be taken down. I though, do not believe, I will get into trouble as there are details to the copyright laws which protect me.
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Donald the lyrics are copyrighted to the author. The simple fact that he/she wrote the lyrics means that they are copyright. That is for sure.

If you or I create any bit of original work it is copyright. You do not have to go through a legal process to apply for copyright.

I'm certainly not arguing against your experience, not at all, but if it's an issue of copyright then it is copyrighted. That law I think was brought out first in the USA.

There are a hundred ways of dealing with this the most novel being Creative Commons but that's a totally different issue.
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One variation on this could possibly be if they wrote the lyrics while being contracted to the publisher for that purpose.
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ok... I just found the loop hole. This has nothing to do with copyright as the lyrics aren't copyrighted (the method) of the lyrics are copyrighted (singing, etc.); however, it COULD be considered plagiarism if the artist of the lyrics is not clearly identified.
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yep... well... thanks for encouraging me to look this info up and making me feel even safer about the whole thing... THIS CAME DIRECTLY FROM THE US COPYRIGHT OFFICE...

How much of someone else's work can I use without getting permission?
Under the fair use doctrine of the U.S. copyright statute, it is permissible to use limited portions of a work including quotes, for purposes such as commentary, criticism, news reporting, and scholarly reports. There are no legal rules permitting the use of a specific number of words, a certain number of musical notes, or percentage of a work. Whether a particular use qualifies as fair use depends on all the circumstances. See FL 102, Fair Use, and Circular 21, Reproductions of Copyrighted Works by Educators and Librarians.

http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq...
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Remember Gerald Ford's autobiography!
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Donald

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yes, I know of his autobiography... what's the significance?
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Peter

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Some journo copied a sentence from his book and that was it :)
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It just happened to be the most important aspect and probably the only important aspect. Nixon's pardon
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So Gerald Ford forced Nixon to resign because he was the head of the Watergate Scandel. Does this have anything to do with what we were talking about? Or did you just cleverly change the topic? LOL!
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It was a jibe at short transcripts being taken from articles and presumed non-effect. Ford sued big time. Plagiarism for parodies is open slather. Put a deprecative line in the lyric and you're sure to be safe :)

But changing the subject as well :)

I wish I could find the stuff on this but you have it straight from the horses mouth so to speak. That's very reassuring.
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by deprecative you mean disapproval? Not exactly sure what you mean.
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I mean like sarcasm or poking fun at
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ok... I need to get busy though... feel free to show my illegal site some support... lol... http://lyrics4you.synthasite.com ... I'll be back when I need more help or have some time to help.
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Here's a reference that Emmy has brought to yola users attention:

http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymy...
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According to the US Copyright Office, it is not illegal to copy words only the method of copying those words. If I wanted to quote someone's book WORD FOR WORD and then PUBLISH it... I can ON THE CONDITION, recognition is given to the author and publisher, this is called citing usually in a Bibliography or cited references page. The only law words being copied is plagiarism. If the author and/or publisher is clearly identified, no laws are broken. NOW... if I copied them in the same FORMAT... CHAPTER 1, SUB TITLE 1, PARAGRAPH 1, PARAGRAPH 2, LESSON REVIEW... etc... then that would be in violation of the copyright laws.
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No offense Donald but you have to take this in to consideration before launching.
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Here is some information you might want to know.

I think this is basically what Peter was trying to say.

When is my work protected?
Your work is under copyright protection the moment it is created and fixed in a tangible form that it is perceptible either directly or with the aid of a machine or device.

Do I have to register with your office to be protected?
No. In general, registration is voluntary. Copyright exists from the moment the work is created. You will have to register, however, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section “Copyright Registration.”
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yes, I'm aware of all of this. That's why I started my other site.