Synthasite branding and link removal

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how can synthasite branding be removed from the bottom of the website...especially if I purchase a domain?
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The terms of use you agreed to for the Synthasite site builder requires the link at the bottom of the page.

If you decide to purchase a domain name, that is up to you, but has nothing to do with the service you utilized to create your site.

When you consider what it would cost to have a site professionally designed, or the cost of going to school to learn code and do it yourself, the link is a small price to pay for the fantastic service that SynthaSite provides free of charge... not to mention free hosting.

A lot of us that have used the site builder are so pleased with it that we have included even larger links, logos and words of thanks on our sites to help promote SynthaSite.
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When will Synthasite allow users to take off this branding? I would pay for that.
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Hi Richard,

Thank you for your feedback.

While we do not have the option to remove the footer at this time, we understand the importance of making this choice available.

We are working on the legal and technical requirements to add the removal of the footer for a small fee in an upcoming release.
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I would like to use Yola as a way to sell websites to businesses and add to my portfolio. I assume though, that if the customer could login to the backend, and it says Yola, that in the future they would just sign up from Yola directly and it would reduce the chances that I could make a business out of producing sites for them. Any thoughts?
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@Jonathan: Some very interesting and helpful feedback. I would like to ask you a question about removing the name of the designer. What if the designer were well known and there was exclusivity associated with their name? So it would be like buying an original artwork with the artist's signature, or an item of clothing with an exclusive label. Would you feel differently about it then, or would you still want to remove the credit to the designer?
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Monique, VP of Customer Support

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About designing sites for others: people will always have the option to sign up and build their own sites for free. However, many people don't have the time, skill or inclination to do this for themselves. If you can use Yola and your design skills to produce sites at a reasonable fee, I would think you would have a service people would want to pay for. The ones who would sign up and build their own sites would not be in your target market, however. Please continue to share your feedback with us - we are very interested in hearing more about your needs as a site designer. Both for yourself and as someone who would build sites for others.
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Jonathon Podolsky

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@Monique (regarding the ethics etc... of removing designers name). Thanks for your response. If art is being represented as being an original artwork it should not have someone else's name on it. I would not want to represent it as my own unless 1) I made radical changes to it and 2) had permission from the original artist and 3) it wasn't represented as solely an original work. It gets fuzzy with collages...let's say if someone took clippings from a bunch of different magazines...they wouldn't be expected to credit each of the original publications.

If it were in a museum, the artwork is assumed to be made by the person who has signed the work, unless specified otherwise; for example, if it is a direct interpretation of another artist's work, then the description is supposed to include the artists name and have the word "after" written prior to the name of the previous artist.

Commercial art can have different rules. For example, if you purchase pictures from a website such as photobucket, you are purchasing certain rights to it, and are not expedited to give attribution. One wouldn't expect the designers name listed under a logo or on design that is made on product packaging.

A store that just tears off a label of a designer garment is taking away credit that the designer expects to receive. However, if the designer wants to sell a modified version of the same garment, under a different label at a different retail store (that is also aware of this), that's fine. And it's also ok to sell the garment as a private label item, as long as that is part of the agreement with the designer.

There are lots of ecommerce websites that include free templates that do not have the name of the designer on it ... it's just part of the service from the website and it's known to those who are making the template.

There are lots of companies, sometimes called "3rd party providers", that will remove their "branding" from the site you are paying for, in exchange for a fee. I think this would be fine for Yola, as long as it's structured in a way that makes it in Yola's business interest. Yola is wonderful because of it's simplicity, great tools, responsive staff, innovation, and low cost. At the same time, I consider it a content management system, or suite of tools; if it receives the compensation that makes it worth it for them to remove the label, then it's fine.

The I believe it's ethical, however, only with prior permission and payment to the
For example, it's very common for marketing firms and other companies that outsource certain parts of a project to others to not name each of their "3rd party providers."

Some of the reference points to consider are:

1. Is the artwork unchanged but someone else takes the exclusive credit for it?
2. What is the common practice for the given circumstances?
3. Has the artist agreed ahead of time?
4. Is the artist being compensated fairly?
5. Is the audience misled?
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Thanks for the interesting feedback. We would of course take proper care of all the ethics and legality, no matter what we decide. I was mainly interested in how people would feel about have a "name" designer associated with their site. I think you have answered my question. It is always going to be interesting when you use someone else's style, but you build the site, which may include modifying the style. I will pass your feedback on!
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I think that the name "YOLA" should be made bigger and if a fee were to be charged i would like to see it be of the "BIG BUCKS" nature. Yes pay threw the nose. YOLA give you a free web site and wait credit for it and credit for the designer of the site. Some one pay YOLA bills some how and if we want the YOLA name and design by taken off then YOLA should be reimburse from loss revenue from their sponsors and the people who design the templates should also be paid for there works. Some want to sell these free web-site as their own works? If I were a customer who paid someone for a original web-site for my business and then for out that they were using FREE YOLA SITES with FREE USE OF TEMPLATES I think I would some monies back. So if you make a contact with someone to design a web-site for some one make it a good contact.
Maybe YOLA should get a percentage of this kind of business, say 50% of all charges to YOUR customer + a addition service fee to make sure site stays on line.

Their is nothing wrong with making a living but when it comes to selling something that cost nothing and making a profit and misleading people into thinking that this is their work and not YOLA or the TEMPLATE DESIGNERS, then I believes it wrong.

I believe YOLA has done a wonderful and great thing to make something like this possible for all to use is fantastic!!!!! I have written an article at http://getsatisfaction.com/yola/topic... and still feel YOLA PRIDE.

Recapping: If YOLA does decide to offer this I hope that the fee is enough to cover YOLA lose of income, if any, from the RESELLER OF THESE FREE SITES ONLY.

YOLA PRIDE: http://getsatisfaction.com/yola/topic...

papa
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CANCEL MY COMMENT ABOUT BUYING RIGHTS TO PICS ON PHOTBUCKET. I meant sites that sell stock photos, like: http://www.gettyimages.com/
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@Papa: I respect your comments and where you are coming from. I want to make sure that my comments and questions were clear:

I agree that Yola and the template designer should have fair compensation and that removing the links should pay for Yola's lost revenue and some profit for them. If I were to produce these sites for others, I would charge them substantially less than for a hand coded website. I wouldn't mislead them to believe that I hand coded everything from scratch or designed the template. I would charge for the amount of work I put into it above and beyond what comes with the template and Yola tools.

There's discussing the customers needs, ongoing discussions with the client, choosing the template, button names, what goes on what page, the order of text and images within each page, tweaking html, copy writing, finding and setting up widgets, scanning images, uploading documents, search engine submission, checking the rank on search engines, updating, consulting the client on marketing the site etc...

Anyhow, it seems that Yola is working on a fair option.
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@Jonathan: you are correct. We think (hope) there will always be customers who love the Yola brand and proudly display it on their site, as well as customers who need to remove this branding for a variety of very legitimate reasons. Both are well represented on this thread and we are equally interested in meeting the needs of both groups. You are all valued customers, using Yola in new and surprising ways, which is exactly what we are hoping for!
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I firmly believe YOLA name should remain in the footer as it is now.

By removing the YOLA name by choice for fee YOLA might break even or make a profit. Of course if future site builder would not see the YOLA name they could possible go somewhere else for their web-site. This could be an additional loss of YOLA revenue.

On the other side of the coin if you were an investor in YOLA, could removing the YOLA name limit the Return on Investment? I think as an investor you would want growth.

There could be a solution such as a main and sub footer.

The main footer could include what YOLA needs in their footer and left on the page.

A Sub-Footer could be created for use if someone would need it. They could include credit to themselves or their Company or any other information
where needed. Credit would then be given to all. YOLA name would stay in tack, the final designer of the site and credit to other sources that contributed to the site.

Those designers of for profit sites could inform the customer that their fees are for final products and maintenance of site. Also by using a free site to build upon one can use this as a cost cutting measure to their customers. If you can save someone money they may listen more. Of course some customer may complain of being of being ripe off. Of course what else would they find wrong?

So many choices, so many ways to go.

@Jonathon
I look forward to seeing your site when they are done. I see your point and appreciate your opinion. I wish you much success.

Good luck YOLA with the decision you will make someday.

papa
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@Papa - some great suggestions. We will give this some thought.
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Hi everyone

We are working on a solution that will address all the concerns raised on this thread:

1) Fair credit to the designer and to Yola.
2) The option to select the content of your own footer.
3) A fee that fairly compensates all parties should the customer wish to remove credits from their site.

I am certainly looking forward to this! I trust that everyone's patience will be rewarded with options to create better websites, no matter what your needs are!