Webmaster Tools Anomaly

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Hi,

After months of flawless performance, Google Webmaster Tools is calling one of my sites "not verified" and it wants me to install new Webmaster code that is similar to but different from my own. I think this may have to do with the domain/subdomain issue I have mentioned before, but that's just a guess.

I am hesitant to verify with the new code because it will mean installing it on 160+ pages. Any advice? The site is LilNyet.com. Subdomain is redmenace.synthasite.com.

Thanks,
Bengo
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This may be caused by not being able to enter my subdomains from the My Sites list in order to insert their code, and having to use the main domain temporarily to do so.

If so, it's sure to hit the other domains, meaning another multi-day, fix-every-page-on-every-site session. That'll be about 1250 pages.
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Hi Bengo - would you be able to paste the message from Google Webmaster so that we can check it out?
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I'm sorry, but there is no message from Google per se.

The information comes from verified sites suddenly becoming unverified on the Webmaster Tools dashboard and the new code they want to assign to the site being different than the old codes.

I think it is caused by the fact that you appear unable enter a subdomain to install Webmaster Tools code. You have to put your subdomain code on the home page of the domain (in the code box), verify (it will be approved) then change the code back to the domain code on the domain home page. I suspect Google has sensed the domain/subdomain difference and has invalidated the verification approach that was previously applied.

I tally these issues with the domain/subdomain arrangement:

- Apparent trouble with Webmaster Tools set-up;
- Possible mis-routing of traffic;
- Content duplication issues. I have read there is a Google penalty risk for domain/subdomain duplication.
- Search muddying, with the subdomain turning up in results;
- People linking to the wrong domain address, wasting links;
- The need to combine two analytics reports for every site when evaluating any parameter;
- Accidental creation of misleading data regarding ad performance;
- The inability to forward subdomain traffic to the domain to create a clear traffic count.

I am not blaming SynthaSite for this! I am building an enterprise just as you are, and as we enter new territory, we do it together, knowing there will be bumps. I couldn't be happier with your staff and product. But in the interest of being clear, I want to report the user experience I have with candor, so that it doesn't spread to others. I think because I am a long time user with multiple sites, some of them hundreds of pages long, I am more likely to notice stuff early, and as much as I want problems relieved, I particularly want to catch them and alert you before they affect others.

What would help me the most:

- Please make sure everyone interested in the domain/subdomain topic is in on these chats, including Chris;
- Keep me up-to-date on what will be happening in the next few months (to the extent you can) so that I can know when to repair and when to await a development. This could save me a lot of work;
- Evaluate my de-verification report from Webmaster Tools and advise, with an eye toward stopping its spread to my other sites;
- Advise if the way I verified subdomains with Webmaster Tools was the way you do it, or should I use another method;
- Have me clarify anything that is unclear.

Chris sent me some subdomain workarounds which are possible but not as attractive as waiting for a more concrete fix, assuming it's in the works. This could change if, for example, Google does a PageRank update for the public and mine is hurt. I understand what PR is and is not, and that it is rather obsolete, but the ways it still functions are important to my sites.

You may not appreciate how much we value your help and personal commitment to assistance. You are immensely appreciated.

Best,
Bengo
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Thank-you Bengo - for your reply. We'll come back to you, but it may take a little longer (people are on holiday!)
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Verifying website in google webmasters tool is really easy. You dont need to paste that metatag to all pages of your website. There are 2 option in google webmaster tool < verify site.

1. Add meta tag on your home page
2. Create html file and upload it in root folder.

So copy and paste you meta tag on your website code after meta data. [in body]

or create one new text file and save it with the name given by google webmaster tool with extension .html [no .txt]
and upload it in root folder.
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Thanks so much, but this is not about getting verified. It's about figuring out the cause of being de-verified. I appreciate your assistance.
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1/3/09 My most important site has now also been de-verified by Webmaster Tools. To re-verify requires new code, meaning reinstallation on hundreds of pages.
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Just noting here that Bengo and I are continuing this conversation via email, and that I'll post back here once we've gotten to the bottom of this.!