What happened to the text editing bar???

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I've never had a negative comment about Yola, but this morning I find a new text editing bar, I HATE IT!!!! Please bring back the old one ASAP!!!

It covers the text where I'm working. I do not want the bar moving around the page. I want it anchored, as it was. Please, please fix this!!!

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Sister

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  • very disappointed!!!

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John Yeoman

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Sorry, Monique, the text editor is not an improvement. It's a disaster. Here's why:

1. It stays anchored - not at the top of the screen where it logically belongs - but to the top of the text block. So if we scroll down the page, the editor vanishes. If we are editing a long text block, and making many dozens of font enhancements to it in one session as I often do, we have to scroll up to the top of the text block, make the changes, then scroll down again. Every time. What was once a ten minute job is now a three hour nightmare. (And please don't tell us to tether a lot of little text blocks together. In my application, the presentation of short stories or articles as one unit up to 3000 words each, that is not a viable option.)

2. Every option on the editor was once accessible with one click. Now the editor is complicated with drop-down boxes imbedded with still further options. That adds extra work. Ten clicks have turned into 50 clicks. If we're editing at Yola all day, as I sometimes do, that itself can turn a ten minute job into a three hour nightmare.

3. The color picker requires us to stab at random at a likely looking color or specify a hex vale. How? Must we keep desired hex values in a separate file, to look up as needed? Again, more needless work. I must now discover the hex values of every color I frequently use so I can reproduce them in future. By all means let the techies have their hex options - but give the rest of us back the simple, unambiguous rectangular color picker we're used to.

I'm all in favor of letting the text editor accommodate Word - though most folk soon learn to paste text into Notebook first then copy it into Yola anyway. But all the other 'improvements' are retrograde steps. I speak as an experienced three-year user of Yola, with eight Yola sites.

IF THE TECHIES ARE NOW IN CHARGE OF THE ASYLUM, AND YOU CAN'T PLACATE THEM, PLEASE DO JUST ONE THING FOR ME AND A FEW THOUSAND OTHER SOON-TO-BE DISGRUNTLED CUSTOMERS: tether the text editor to the top of the screen NOT the text block. Then at least it would be possible, just, to edit a Yola page. Right now, the job cannot be done. And that noise you'll soon hear is a few thousand folk migrating their sites to Wordpress :)
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Sister

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Wow! I hadn't even run up against all those issues yet! Thanks for pointing them out, John.

And, yes, we know how to paste into Notepad to remove formatting.
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John, thanks for putting this here. This is exactly how I feel. Please put back the text editor.
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a1web UK

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IF THE TECHIES ARE NOW IN CHARGE OF THE ASYLUM, I for one want many thousands of £'s from yola to move my many sites away from yola.
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The new text bar is not working properly and I can't edit the size of my text! I used to be able to select sizes as small, normal, large etc., but now have to select a number size and nothing happens.

I also need my text to be the same size as on the rest of my site and now don't know what I will need to select to keep everything consistent. This is a nightmare Yola, the text editor was just fine the way it was and now I can't even edit my website! If it ain't broke then don't fix it!

Hope something is sorted soon as I need to add new material on a daily basis.
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Sister

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Exactly, "if it ain't broke then don't fix it!"
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Hi Mark,

We have long been concerned with the output generated by the use of "small, normal, large" in the text editor and it not providing a consistent look across your website. We addressed this with the Style Designer. Have you given it a try yet? With it you can select specific sizes for your headers and paragraph text that will applied to your entire website and you'll no longer need to edit each text widget inline.
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BUT IT DOESN'T WORK!!!!

Great if it worked...but it doesn't. How can I keep the font size for text that links to other pages the same as text that doesn't? At the moment you can't!

Laura - have you catually tried the Style Designer out across a whole test website yet? It's well and truly messed mine up! And it doesn't seem to allow you to change things back again.
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My problem: the on-screen space created by an empty text box no longer acts as a space separator between widgets

The empty text boxes no longer separate and my widgets are now all squashed together. I would avoid publishing your website during this time - it is only those pages which I have amended with other items this evening (changing a picture) which have been affected. Avoid opening any other pages and editing them as this spreads the problem to the page. I have updated and published changes to three pages - and all of them have lost their spacing.
Avoid editing anything until this is over.
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Mark N

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Yes, that's another problem, using the text box for spacing. The solution is to set the top and bottom margins to 15, but, of course, this is extra work. Every time Yola update something these days it means extra work for us!
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Laura Thomas

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I'm sorry you feel this is extra work, but the text box was never designed to be used as padding, that's what the margin setting was intended for. Please try adding the padding you require using the margin feature and let us know how that goes for you.
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Abq Jew

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The first rule of product development should be: First, do no harm.

Yola can resolve most of the current problems by reverting to the previous version of the text editor.

But the current problems raise two questions that are, overall, far more important:

1. How does Yola gather and evaluate ideas for product improvements?
2. How does Yola test software changes before releasing them?

We Yola users will get through this. With luck (and proper Yola response), we'll "only" lose a few hours of work. (I'm not touching any of my Yola sites until this is resolved; fortunately, I can afford to wait.)

But my confidence in Yola has been shaken by this experience.
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a1web UK

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good answer Marc.. I have had some good response from support when it comes to moving and transferring and will be the first to praise them too when, but . to test on the main sitebuilding is a silly thing 100% to have done.

I have lost a days work with at least payment from 5 clients so fartoday at
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The new text editing system is extremely poor - my homepage looks like a joke. Huge spacing between text now appears on my site. Why does every line appear as a new paragraph

I have supported Yola for years paying hundreds of dollars for Yola Silver and now you throw this in my face. Very angered customer here.

You messed up - No more excuses just revert it.
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David Byers

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I am shocked and disappointed to find that Yola has caused my site (and possibly two other sites which I'm afraid to open at the moment) to suddenly become double-spaced - completely ruining the placement of pics and other information.

This is unacceptable, particularly in a paid-for service. I've had one reply, but it didn't inform me of a new style designer change, nor if I follow the instructions to click on "Paragraph Text" if it will actually restore things to where they were. Will it affect one paragraph at all (a nightmare, very lengthy task across a large site) or the whole site? If it doesn't work, how can I get back to where I want to be?

After a year or two of great service, this is very disappointing and cross-making.
How could I recommend Yola to others?
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a1web UK

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Yola has adopted a 'like it or lump it' attitude