Yolasite.com Domains And Search Engines

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Hi all,

I'm in the process of rebuilding my site, which is a co.uk domain currently at a different free website company (one that has royally p'd off many people lol) :-(

I've discovered that I can't import my co.uk domain to Yola and the .com version isn't available so I've just started from scratch with a free yolasite.com domain (in fact, this is my site http://leelynch.yolasite.com/ ). The co.uk version did very well on search engines and my question is this ...........

With a bit of SEO, will yolasite.com domains be successful on search engines? Only I don't recall seeing any? Or do I really need to look at other options (e.g. .org, or whatever)?

Many thanks to anyone who can advise me.

Mazz
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Hello Mazz,

First of all you may be able to point your .co.uk name to Yola's servers and still be able to use your domain. have a look at this and see if it is possible with your registrar's DNS management tool. Here's an open outline Tutorial by Yola with instructions.

With regard to yolasite sub-domains. there are people who have been successful using these. It may take extra work and time but it's really hard to compare the outcomes on a one to one basis. Some places devalue sub-domains of this kind and in fact have marked yolasite subdomains as untrustworthy. In the e-com world this is not good. This has previously appeared for owners well down the track and has been very frustrating for them.
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That's interesting news Gop, I shall go and have a look t that tutorial now. Fingers crossed I can use mu co.uk domain because that would be great. But if not, reading betwen the lines, I'm going to need a custom domain by the sound of things. Hmm.

Many thanks for your help.

Mazz
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Hello again Gop. Well, it's been a long couple of hours but I studied the tutorial and I THINK I might have cracked it. My domain is registered with Melbourne IT but was purchased through my previous free website company. Can't remember their name - sounded a bit like Office Skive - something like that. Anyway, I had to free the domain from them first, register an account with Melbourne IT and follow the tutorial from there,

I'm trying to add it to Yola now but I'm getting the message 'your domain is not pointed at Yola' although I think I'm right in saying this can take up to 48 hours? Could be a nervy couple of days lol. Fingers crossed - I'll let you know if it worked!

Regards and thanks again,

Mazz
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It can take a period of time and it's downtime :(. Hope this is your answer but it's not the end of the line if it doesn't work this time Phil.
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Taps foot and hums a bit :-)
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It won't cause gout but you may get a sore foot and laryngitis :)
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I'll get laryngitis if this works lol. Any idea what 'the norm' is? Is it 48 hours? Longer? Shorter? I'm going to have to go to bed soon lol.
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usually shorter...... my experience is generally half hour or so but it is well published that it can take the 48 hours so you would have to go with that to be certain I guess.
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What I don't understand is this part of the tutorial ..........

Once you have configured your DNS settings, to publish your unpublished site to your pointed domain:

1.Click the green "Publish to the web" button in Yola.
2.In the "Already own a domain?" section, click on "Point your domain now".
3.Enter your domain name. If the domain is correctly set up, it will say "Congratulations. Your domain is pointed!". If your domain is not correctly configured, it will say "Sorry. This domain is not pointed correctly". You will need to go back to your domain registrar and double-check your settings.
4.Click on the "Next" button to publish your domain.

When I try to add my domain in 'My Yola', I get the message 'your domain is not pointed at Yola'. I'm pretty sure I've done things right at the Melbourne IT end, but the above instructions suggest that I need to point at Yola when I click the green 'Publish' button. But there's no such option when I click the green button???
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The DNS records still don't show.
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Sorry - excuse my ignorance, what does this suggest? Does it mean that Melbourne IT haven't acted on it yet?
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I guess there's three possibilities and maybe more that i know nothing of.

1.. It is still propagating
2.. There's a problem
3.. there's an error in the additions
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Send Melb IT an email now they should be up and about as it's 10:30 am if they're in Melbourne (GMT+10) and work on Saturdays.
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I did sent them a message a bit earlier. I'll let you know how I get on :-)
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Well. Still no response from Melbourne - I have a ticket and I'm waiting my turn. In the meantime, I've reached the conclusion that something must be wrong so I've deleted the two A records and started again. I think where I was (and probably still am) going wrong could be in the 'Hostname' department.

No matter how many times I read and stare at Hostname information, I just don't understand it. If I give you all the details, would you mind seeing if you can spot anything obvious that I'm doing wrong?

Firstly, my domain is leelynch.co.uk - and for my A Records I have now set two Hostnames, leelynch.com and www.leelynch - both pointing to 184.72.229.176 and in my information it says that my Name Servers are ns1.secure.net and ns2.secure.net

If I've still got the wrong end of the stick re - Hostnames, it there any way you could suggest two that I could use? Just off to rip some more hair out - not many left now :-)
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Hi Phil,

Full marks for persevering and beware, there is no effective hair restoration process in the world!
You don't need host names at all when pointing to Yola. In fact hostnames can really wreck the system most easily. Yola only requires that the two A records be set.

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Easiest way Alt+PrtScrn. The open Paint in Accessories on your computer and paste that into paint. "Save as" a .jpg file rather than the default bmp because bmp files are huge.You can then uplad that jpg onto this forum by clicking the little image facility at the bottom right of an input window. (Sorry if I'm teaching your grandmother to suck eggs!)
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Right. But I have to have hostnames in order for MIT to allow me to create A Records? Are the ones I'm using OK? Here is the top of the screen on my control panel. I'll post the bottom in a minute :-)

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I think ignore the "Failed" but you would need to Edit the second entry to include ".com" as well
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OK. Just added '.com' to the second one. But I tried setting un an A Record without a hostname and it wasn't allowing it :-(
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Note there is a failed one there with no option to delete it. Here is the bottom of the page.

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Th nameserver addresses will probably cause a problem because as I understand this the records are saying that your site is at two different addresses which it isn't
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Yola doesn't have nameservers: http://www.yola.com/tutorials/article...
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Although come to think of it, I'm not sure if I've tried without - perhaps I don't need to enter a hostname. Shall I delete these and try to set up two A records without hostnames?
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So, I've added '.com' to the second one, MIT won't allow me to set up A Records without hostnames, but you think hostnames will cause a problem. So is it looking like this can't be done? :-(
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I'm sure it can be done. It's just that Yola don't have Host Names.

Can you try to delete the record and start again? Possible?
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The other thing Phil is to work through their FAQ or instruction from first principles. Always easy to overlook some aspect that often makes the whole solution gel.
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Well, yes I can delete the records and start again, but replace them with what? I can't leave the hostnames blank and they can't be identical - Ive tried that. Also, been over the FAQ many times.

But ... even the Yola tutorial states that I will be required to enter hostnames???
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Hi Gop, the bit of the Yola tutorial I was referring to is this.........

"To set up the two A records:

Some domain registrars require one A record with the hostname "@" and one with the hostname "www".
Other domain registrars allow you to create one hostname called "domain.com" and another "www" (replace "domain" with your own address).
Both should point to our IP address: 184.72.229.176."

Thank you very much for your kind offer. I'll email the details in a few minutes. Then I have to rush out to work but I'll be back online in the office from around 8pm onwards :-)

Many, many thanks.
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It's 12:25 am here :) What's your time zone?
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lol sorry. I'm in London. It's 17.26. I work an 18.00-06.00 nightshift :-(
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Thanks for the clarification. It;'s perfectly clear now what is required. I'll play and hopefully get this sorted tso that you can get into the next level of playing :)

You've done extremely well. Thanks for persisting.
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OK Phil. Try this now. The A records are set and hopefully accurately. Not sure about those blessed nameservers though??

PS: Change your Melb IT password for your security. Email sent to you.
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Hello Phil,

Have just checked the DNS records of your domain with an independent tool and both the non-www and the www are successfully pointed and propagated. You should be good from now.

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Gop - you are a wizard! We are up and running! http://www.leelynch.co.uk/

Thank you so much for your help :-)
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Glad it is all up and running. Nice page. Great atmosphere and congratulations.